Fake, Spam, or Passworded torrents, and their detection

Why we have spam or fake torrents? Ok we have 1000's of new torrents on a daily basis. So we can't check all them from the incoming stuff. We trying make our search results and the admin of the tracker admins keep their sites clear but its not so simple. And of course we have some bad torrents so thats why i created this topic to help detect bad stuff.

So here suggestions:
1) First you must look at - its torrent files list.
a) If you download movie and files list has

1 archive (*.rar, *.zip, *.tar, *.gz etc) - its probably fake. Because there is no reason to archive binary (archived by codecs) video. But if only 50 archives (*.r01, *.r02 ...) - it can be a good torrent.
b) If you see in the files a text document like: (*.txt, *.doc, *.htm, *.html, *.pdf) read all about them first:
- if this files has names like "how to open this", "How to play movie", "read this before extract", "visit URL to get password", "how to get password", "Help and FAQ about movie" - its strongly tends to be a major fake.
- if these text files have good file names just download ONLY this files and read them fully (before downloading the movie!!!). So you can download only the text before starting to download the movie, read this doc and if it has any words about visiting other sites to get password - its is a fake

2) Look at the trackers list. If it has many trackers and only 1 of them live - its very strange. Update seeds and leechers stats. Same again? Why other trackers not track it now? Yes maybe this is a fake. But its not 100% sure about this. But try to avoid it. Its a 50%/50% chance.

3) Look at the comments. If someone says - its fake! i think you should not download this. And of course ask about quality or fake in comments.

4) look at torrent size. It can help you detect bad staff too. Small size of movie can be strange too.

I hope this will help you a little to detect FAKEs.

And also Reporting fake torrents to us and the coresponding tracker will let others know about it!


Now i will show a small example:

Torrent "Beowulf (2007)High Quality HDCAM ReencodedUSA avi" . it looks OK.
trackers: total 5029 seeds, 9302 leechers in 23 trackers
Size: 702.05 MB
files:
so 3 files. Looks like OK. example and full movie in .avi
But stop. What is "Beowulf's Help & FaQ File.htm". FAQ and help for what?? Here full movie in .avi just open and whatch it. so why any FAQ and help? Strange.... Looks like bullshit. OK. getting this .html file and reading:
... rename .avi to .rar .... go to site for password .....
OK. All clear now
its 100% fake!

So this is 1st example i will post here others. Keep reading Blog.
And of course we remove such stuff from our site and bann uploaders and even the tracker if they are known to be infested and unmonitored or filtered etc.


One more tip...

The movie has been released, say, yesterday. Today you see a TS or CAM version. Ok. Then you see a DVDRIP version. This one most certainly is the fake. Miracles happen, but not so often.


Yes, for newbies, DVD Rip is a copy from a DVD that is then turned into a watchable file format for your computer.

Some movies come in format of .bin and .cue but dont use these, these are likely fake too.


As others have mentioned before don't download rar files or torrents with html files. But what if the torrent seems legit and you get it only to find out it is a fake. what a waste.
Chances are if it aint at video cd quality it ain't out there


check comments. im download rar file all the time and cant remember when last time i got a fake/pw 1.i always check tracker etc like rls date and comment ppl make .iff ppl just check the torrent befor dl then np. so ppl if torrent say go to url for pw then dont dl its fake


One more tip again. There is no reason to activate video files because video is already archived by codecs. Only 1 reason i see - its many chunks for separate downloading (will looks like .r01, .r02 etc)


If you see a (*.nfo) file in a movie torrent file just download that one and open it up in Notepad to read it and see what it says. ok if it say goto a web site it is a fake ok but if it says what the movie is about it is not a fake ok then you can download all the files in the torrent


if you download the movie ,how i do , then you see the movie doomplayer or stranger video player so it's 1000% FAKEwell now we get some files in ".r01 .r02 .r03" pack as fake too.....

After i unzipped one..... Eg. 10000 bc and then played the avi.... it showed the screen... "get Hdmi2 codec from hdmi2.com" Something like that....

Embarassed Well that site took me to a porn site.. Same old publicity tricks..
All in all ..whole 700 mb turned to scrap.

That was an uncompressed avi..... with a large file size...

Is there a way out to track such fake files....
I mean they are in ".r01 .r02 .r03" kinda thing and u cant know whats inside it unless u played it..

Well i think The posts and comments on such files can stop this.
So where ever u find such file.... Plz do post a comment on that,so that others may not suffer Wink


well first check for comment and check files befor download some times there is a file go for codec url for pw ect


Seems to be alot of disagreement about how to interpret the use of archives. As you cannot see the contents of an archive before its downloaded, the content cannot be verified before such either.

Many (most) TV-rips of series, are relased as an .avi file around 350Mb in size (episode lasting around 40-45 minutes). Some are 1CD size (approx. 700mb), these are usually encoded with higher resolution and/or 5.1 surround sound. This kind of releases are split into 15.000.000 byte (14.31Mb).RAR segments (files).

DVD-rips are DivX/Xvid/[YourFavouriteCodecHere] files, split into one or more .avi files, sized approx. 700Mb, to fit on a CD. These are also split into 15.000.000 byte segments.

Large game, PS2, Xbox and DVD-movie releases (made to fit on 1 or several DVD's) are split into 50.000.000 byte (47,68Mb) .RAR segments. Pretty much all DVD-movie releases are to some degree compressed, and thus take up a full DVD disc. This results in about 92-96 .rar files. All of these should be of same size, except the last one. A correct and complete release should hold the following files and folders (names are examples):

fancy.movie.example.dvd.rar
fancy.movie.example.dvd.r00
fancy.movie.example.dvd.r01
...
fancy.movie.example.dvd.r95
AND!
fancy.movie.example.dvd.nfo
fancy.movie.example.dvd.sfv

Note: in some occations the .rar segments are named differently, for instance:
fancy.movie.example.dvd.001
fancy.movie.example.dvd.002
fancy.movie.example.dvd.003
...
fancy.movie.example.dvd.095
OR
fancy.movie.example.dvd.part001.rar
fancy.movie.example.dvd.part002.rar
fancy.movie.example.dvd.part003.rar

There is nothing wrong with this. This is just another way of naming the segments of the RAR archive.

In addition, any film (tv-rip of series, dvd, dvd-rip etc) should hold a folder called "Sample" with the corresponding file in it:
fancy.movie.example.sample.vob (if DVD-movie release) OR
fancy.movie.example.sample.avi (if avi file release)

Some may add additional files/folders containing cover pictures or generic release group nfo's. Some also implements an .url file to the torrent site it has passed through.

The .NFO file holds ASCII text information about the release, such as what source it is from, version and original type of protection (if software), compression/data rates, what audio and subtitles are included, what have been stripped etc. If there is "PROPER" in the release name, the file shall state the reason for proper. With software, it also gives installation instructions etc.
The .SFV file holds a checksum (unique signature of a file, changes with even the slightest modification of the file) of all the files in the original release. it is STRONGLY suggested to run this file with a SFV checker program (can be found for free, just google it) - to check if any of the files have been modified or broken during download. This will also tell you if any files are missing.
If 1 or more files have been corrupted or modified, download that/those particular files again, preferrably from another source.

Once the SFV check passes all the files, extract the .rar archive with WinRAR or another appropriate tool (Total Commander etc).

Now, when the complete archive has been downloaded, there should be (without a few exceptions) NO .rar, .zip or such archived files within the main segment-split archive, unless EXPLICITLY noted in the .nfo file with the same name as the release.

An avi type release should only hold the .avi file. In rare cases subtitles are included in a seperate file. A game, program or dvd-movie should hold one of the following:
.bin and .cue
.iso
.img

other CD/DVD image formats occure, but are rare.

The initial release of these episodes, games and dvds as pretty much all releases today - are compressed into .RAR format, and split in 15.000.000 or 50.000.000 byte chunks. This is a general rule of the release scene, and most releases WILL be nuked if not following this rule. This is not an attempt to compress material already compressed by codecs. This is done so that if a download procedure is terminated due to manual/intentional aborting, loss of or unstable connection etc, the user can resume download later. In case of file corruption due to the nature of aboring the download, only that particular 14.31Mb /47,68Mb chunk is lost, and not the entire part that has been damaged.

The idea distributing in this manner was concieved and taken into use quite a while back, when alot/most end users did not have large-capacity broadband connections. Also, this allowed for precise verification of the authenticy and integrity of the downloaded material via the SFV check. Sure now adays we could easily download a 700mb divx and 4.38Gb DVDr in one chunk, but the same benefits are still there - so why change a system that still works more or less flawlessly? Another benefit of this system, when downloading via e.g. Direct Connect (DC++ etc), is that you can get several chunks from separate users at the same time, thus cutting down download time (as long as available bandwith on both ends allows for it).